Breaking news! Hackers bust open climate change scam

[GotPhysical]

STOP PRESS

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... ey_hacked/

Holy shit, I can't believe it! Hadley GRU, a publicly funded research facility that has refused to release thousands of reports and documents backing up their research just got hacked. The emails and documents are way too detailed to be an elaborate hoax, we're talking private email addresses discussing departure times and shit.

I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.

Some sample document titles

0926947295.txt * IPCC scenarios not supposed to be realistic
0938018124.txt * Mann: “something else” causing discrepancies
0939154709.txt * Osborn: we usually stop the series in 1960
0933255789.txt * WWF report: beef up if possible
0998926751.txt * “Carefully constructed” model scenarios to get “distinguishable results”

[GotPhysical]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T

Working link to dox as of time of posting. Downloading myself, so I might torrent or host personally if they really clamp down on this shit.

Rowr rowr, fight the power, fuck communism

[Billy Jack]

Please please please please please be real...

[Billy Jack]

Breaking News Story: Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
19 11 2009

The details on this are still sketchy, we’ll probably never know what went on. But it appears that Hadley Climate Research Unit has been hacked and many many files have been released by the hacker or person unknown

Hadley Met Office/CRU building - click for very large image Image: greenwisebusiness.co.uk

I’m currently traveling and writing this from an aiprort, but here is what I know so far:

An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertsied an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:

We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to
be kept under wraps.

We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents

The file was large, about 61 megabytes, containing hundreds of files.

It contained data, code, and emails from Phil Jones at CRU to and from many people.

I’ve seen the file, it appears to be genuine and from CRU. Others who have seen it concur- it appears genuine. There are so many files it appears unlikely that it is a hoax. The effort would be too great.

Here is some of the emails just posted at Climate Audit on this thread:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7801#comments

I’ve redacted email addresses and direct phone numbers for the moment. The emails all have US public universities in the email addresses, making them public/FOIA actionable I beleive.
From: Phil Jones
To: mann@vxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Fwd: John L. Daly dead
Date: Thu Jan 29 14:17:01 2004



From: Timo H‰meranta
To:
Subject: John L. Daly dead
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:04:28 +0200
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510
Importance: Normal

Mike,
In an odd way this is cheering news ! One other thing about the CC paper – just found
another email – is that McKittrick says it is standard practice in Econometrics journals
to give all the data and codes !! According to legal advice IPR overrides this.

Cheers
Phil

“It is with deep sadness that the Daly Family have to announce the sudden death of John
Daly.Condolences may be sent to John’s email account (daly@john-daly.com)
“
Reported with great sadness

Timo H‰meranta
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Timo H‰meranta, LL.M.
Moderator, Climatesceptics
Martinlaaksontie 42 B 9
01620 Vantaa
Finland, Member State of the European Union

Moderator: timohame@yxxxxx.xxx
Private: timo.hameranta@xxxxx.xx

Home page: [1]personal.inet.fi/koti/hameranta/climate.htm

Moderator of the discussion group “Sceptical Climate Science”
[2]groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics

“To dwell only on horror scenarios of the future
shows only a lack of imagination”. (Kari Enqvist)

“If the facts change, I’ll change my opinion.
What do you do, Sir” (John Maynard Keynes)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0)xxxxxx
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) xxxxxx
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxx.xx.xx
NR4 7TJ
UK
—————————————————————————-

References

1. http://personal.inet.fi/koti/hameranta/climate.htm
2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics
From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann@xxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxx.xxx
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@xxx.xx.xx,t.osborn@xxxx.xxx



Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or
first thing tomorrow.
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual
land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.

Cheers
Phil

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) xxxxx
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) xxxx
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK

—————————————————————————-
From: Jonathan Overpeck
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: letter to Senate
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:49:31 -0700
Cc: Caspar M Ammann , Raymond Bradley , Keith Briffa , Tom Crowley , Malcolm Hughes , Phil Jones , mann@xxxxx.xxx, jto@xxxxx.xx.xxx, omichael@xxxxx.xxx, Tim Osborn , Kevin Trenberth , Tom Wigley



Hi all – I’m not too comfortable with this, and would rather not sign – at least not
without some real time to think it through and debate the issue. It is unprecedented and
political, and that worries me.

My vote would be that we don’t do this without a careful discussion first.

I think it would be more appropriate for the AGU or some other scientific org to do this -
e.g., in reaffirmation of the AGU statement (or whatever it’s called) on global climate
change.

Think about the next step – someone sends another letter to the Senators, then we respond,
then…

I’m not sure we want to go down this path. It would be much better for the AGU etc to do
it.

What are the precedents and outcomes of similar actions? I can imagine a special-interest
org or group doing this like all sorts of other political actions, but is it something for
scientists to do as individuals?

Just seems strange, and for that reason I’d advise against doing anything with out real
thought, and certainly a strong majority of co-authors in support.

Cheers, Peck

Dear fellow Eos co-authors,
Given the continued assault on the science of climate change by some on Capitol Hill,
Michael and I thought it would be worthwhile to send this letter to various members of
the U.S. Senate, accompanied by a copy of our Eos article.
Can we ask you to consider signing on with Michael and me (providing your preferred
title and affiliation). We would like to get this out ASAP.
Thanks in advance,
Michael M and Michael O

______________________________________________________________
Professor Michael E. Mann
Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22903
_______________________________________________________________________
e-mail: mann@xxxxxx.xxx Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) xxx-xxxxx
http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:EOS.senate letter-final.doc (WDBN/MSWD) (00055FCF)

–

Jonathan T. Overpeck
Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
Professor, Department of Geosciences
Mail and Fedex Address:
Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721
direct tel: +xxxx
fax: +1 520 792-8795
http://www.geo.arizona.edu/Faculty_Page ... eck.J.html http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
It appears that the proverbial Climate Science Cat is out of the bag.



Developing story – more later

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/b ... -released/

[Billy Jack]

That guys sig freaks me out just a little.

“To dwell only on horror scenarios of the future
shows only a lack of imagination”. (Kari Enqvist)

[Hottentot Apron]

I'm not reading all that what does it say?

[Billy Jack]

I'm not reading all that what does it say?

It looks like people talking about manipulating climate data.

[Indie Cred]

I'm not reading all that what does it say?

It looks like people talking about manipulating climate data.

that's the shitty part, we won't know if this is real until someone digs through every fucking report.

[snagglinz]

ground fuckin floor. too bad too because i bought 500 carbon credits for my wife for christmas. did i get ripped off? :/

[Billy Jack]

I'm not reading all that what does it say?

It looks like people talking about manipulating climate data.

that's the shitty part, we won't know if this is real until someone digs through every fucking report.

If it's not real someone spend years of his life forging 61 MB worth of emails.

Do you have this downloaded yet?

[FuckMaster Saturday]

im pledging my allegiance to SIR david attenborough ITT

[Indie Cred]

I'm not reading all that what does it say?

It looks like people talking about manipulating climate data.

that's the shitty part, we won't know if this is real until someone digs through every fucking report.

If it's not real someone spend years of his life forging 61 MB worth of emails.

Do you have this downloaded yet?

Nope. How do you know that half the shit isn't gibberish?

[GotPhysical]

180+ megs uncompressed.

Downloads fucking up for me (at work) but I'll be giving it the Mk.1 eyeball when I get home.

[FuckMaster Saturday]

this is some troll megafuck from somewhere like LUE

calling it

[Furry Holocaust]

Malcolm Turnball's going to be crying into his Penfolds Grange tonight

[Billy Jack]

this is some troll megafuck from somewhere like LUE

calling it

You could reason that maybe it was 180 MB of real emails with some troll megafuck stuff thrown in but where would anyone get 180 MB of real emails?

Also it's completely believable that the email server would be accessible via the internet.

This has happened before, remember Diebold's massive email leak?

[Account Sharing]

i'll be all over it if it's virus free

[King of Niger]

I'm downloading it as we speak.

[Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu wa Za Banga]

Ahahahaha holy shit this is incredible.

Let's see the "THIS WHOLE HACKING THING IS... UNETHICAL!!!"

[FuckMaster Saturday]

edit: im dumb

[Account Sharing]

Ahahahaha holy shit this is incredible.

Let's see the "THIS WHOLE HACKING THING IS... UNETHICAL!!!"

*palin's email account gets hacked*

[Lomo Taxual]

so like, assuming this is all 100% true and verifiable. What are the political ramifications exactly?

Does Al Gore lose every ounce of credibility and go into hiding for the rest of his life?

Will any SA thread mentioning this be ban worthy?

How big are we talkin here?

[Billy Jack]

Ahahahaha holy shit this is incredible.

Let's see the "THIS WHOLE HACKING THING IS... UNETHICAL!!!"

I dunno, I think internet persons are more loyal to the noble hacker than they are to any politician. Only the douchiest will try to condemn it, and even then not for very long.

[Billy Jack]

so like, assuming this is all 100% true and verifiable. What are the political ramifications exactly?

Does Al Gore lose every ounce of credibility and go into hiding for the rest of his life?

Will any SA thread mentioning this be ban worthy?

How big are we talkin here?

1.) The people seriously trying to make that ENRON-esque cap & trade carbon credit thing fly are pretty well fucked.

2.) Liberals will feel betrayed and disillusioned.

3.) This gives a TON of credence to the idea that people in authority conspire to deceive the public. The days of "lol u r conspeercy theerist" will be finally gone forever.

4.) The ramifications of #2 are so far-reaching I can't even speculate.

That is of course unless the whole thing manages to be buried

[Billy Jack]

BUT OFCOURSE


i wrote my thesis on that

http://www.chillingeffects.org/response ... ywordID=22

[Lomo Taxual]

so like, assuming this is all 100% true and verifiable. What are the political ramifications exactly?

Does Al Gore lose every ounce of credibility and go into hiding for the rest of his life?

Will any SA thread mentioning this be ban worthy?

How big are we talkin here?

1.) The people seriously trying to make that ENRON-esque cap & trade carbon credit thing fly are pretty well fucked.

2.) Liberals will feel betrayed and disillusioned.

3.) This gives a TON of credence to the idea that people in authority conspire to deceive the public. The days of "lol u r conspeercy theerist" will be finally gone forever.

4.) The ramifications of #2 are so far-reaching I can't even speculate.

That is of course unless the whole thing manages to be buried

Interesting to see what SA does with it.

Reminds me of when the whole Dan Rather/Bush war records thing broke. At the beginning when a thread was posted saying that Dan Rather may in fact be wrong and that the whole "Bush Lied about war records" story might actually be a hoax, there were a fuckload of goons going crazy about it. I remember an infamous D&D faggot posting: "This is 100% bullshit, im calling it right fucking now. Do you hear me? I am going BALLS OUT saying this is pure right wing propaganda. No fucking way this is true". Then later when it was proven that it was in fact true, the goon never once apologized for going "balls out". He just kinda backpedaled and everyone forgot about it and gave him a pass. Oh but the guy who started the thread and made all the libs eat crow was permabanned.

I'm imagining something similar. IF a thread is even made, which I doubt it will. My guess is no one left on SA has the balls to even talk about the issue, at least not until they are forced to. Like if the entire country is talking about it and they have no other choice.

[Billy Jack]

I'm imagining something similar. IF a thread is even made, which I doubt it will. My guess is no one left on SA has the balls to even talk about the issue, at least not until they are forced to. Like if the entire country is talking about it and they have no other choice.

Or like how in 2003 everyone knew Iraq had WMD's, was for the war and believed we would be welcomed as liberators.

Cambodian Vacation Pix (aka EDX 200), cioxx and I are still waiting for our prizes for making the only predictions that were remotely accurate.

ONE MILLION DEAD heh.

PRETTY DAMN CLOSE!


And they all swung from hating Islam to loving it in the space of only 5 years.

[GotPhysical]

Just checked, Bolt has updated.

8.15 PM UPDATE: The Hadley CRU director admits the emails seem to be genuine:

The director of Britain’s leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition tonight ..."It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails.”

So the 1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a scandal, and one of the greatest in modern science. I’ve been adding some of the most astonishing in updates below - emails showing collusion, destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more.

[Dill Pickles]

yes it's real, and damn it's boring...hopefully some spergs are combing through this

[Dill Pickles]

A word of warning. I would be careful about using other, independent paleo
reconstruction work as supporting the MBH reconstructions. I am attaching my
version of a comparison of the bulk of these other reconstructions. Although
these all show the hockey stick shape, the differences between them prior to
1850 make me very nervous. If I were on the greenhouse deniers' side, I
would be inclined to focus on the wide range of paleo results and the differences
between them as an argument for dismissing them all.

despite all the conspiratorial shit everyone on those blogs are talking about, just opening some of these e-mails at random...they all sound like true believers in global warming/climate change. or at least their wording does.

[Stallman]

just going to be buried, global warming is like a religion and they can just say BIBLE AL GORE SAYS IT I BELIEVE IT

[Dill Pickles]

John,
There has been some email traffic in the last few days to a week - quite
a bit really, only a small part about MSU. The main part has been one of
your House subcommittees wanting Mike Mann and others and IPCC
to respond on how they produced their reconstructions and how IPCC
produced their report.
In case you want to look at this see later in the email !

Also this load of rubbish !

This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached article.What an idiot. The scientific community would come down on me in no
uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only
7 years of data and it isn't statistically significant. LOL

The Australian also alerted me to this blogging ! I think this is the term ! Luckily

I don't live in Australia.

i should be in bed but this is kinda cool

[Dill Pickles]

in so many of the emails they're freaking out because congress or the house of representatives are calling on them to do presentations and prove shit lol. ok im tired going to bed SPEEEERRGGS COME OUT TO PLAYAYAY

[Billy Jack]

Is anyone picking this up yet?

[Account Sharing]

blogs are the only outlets talking about this if google search is to be believed

jesus, this is 13 years worth of email

[Account Sharing]

lollin

From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: "Neville Nicholls" <N.Nicholls@bom.gov.au>
Subject: RE: Misc
Date: Wed Jul 6 15:07:45 2005

Neville,
Mike's response could do with a little work, but as you say he's got the tone
almost dead on. I hope I don't get a call from congress ! I'm hoping that no-one
there realizes I have a US DoE grant and have had this (with Tom W.) for the last 25
years.
I'll send on one other email received for interest.
Cheers
Phil
At 14:21 06/07/2005, you wrote:

Thanks Phil.
I had seen the estimates of 0.12C for UAH 5.2, but wasnt sure if the version producing
these trends had all the months corrected, and that John was happy with the corrections
(I had heard that his initial estimate was that the change made a major difference to
the trends, but that later calulations didnt support this). I think I have a pretty good
idea now of the trends in the various data sets.
I have seen the Mears/Wentz paper, but will watch out for John's paper (I know I could
have asked John about all of this, but I suspect he feels a bit over-burdened and
harrassed at the moment, and I didnt want to add to the pressure on him, so thanks for
passing this stuff on to me).
I thought Mike Mann's draft response was pretty good - I had expected something more
vigorous, but I think he has got the "tone" pretty right. Do you expect to get a call
from Congress?

[John Carpenter's 'George 'Hannibal' Peppard']

so like, assuming this is all 100% true and verifiable. What are the political ramifications exactly?

Does Al Gore lose every ounce of credibility and go into hiding for the rest of his life?

Will any SA thread mentioning this be ban worthy?

How big are we talkin here?

1.) The people seriously trying to make that ENRON-esque cap & trade carbon credit thing fly are pretty well fucked.

2.) Liberals will feel betrayed and disillusioned.

3.) This gives a TON of credence to the idea that people in authority conspire to deceive the public. The days of "lol u r conspeercy theerist" will be finally gone forever.

4.) The ramifications of #2 are so far-reaching I can't even speculate.

That is of course unless the whole thing manages to be buried

lol when did facts and statistics get in the way of liberals eating their carefully crafted dogma and asking for seconds

i really hope the media does pick this up, i think there's enough people who smell the fish odor coming from global warming "research" to make this into a story. unfortunately they're the sorts of people who tend to be super disapproving of hackers

ha ha you must be excited hangly, the ultimate vindication - when the tinfoil helmet ends up saving your brain like that dude with the plate in his head in the tommyknockers